Talk about the historic verdict. On a charge rarely brought to trial in the US. Leader of the Oath Keepers, Stuart Rose, has been found guilty by a Washington, DC jury of seditious conspiracy for his role in the January 6 attack on the US.
Capitol. Rose was also one of the five Oath Keepers oath keeper defendants to be convicted of obstructing directing an official proceeding which, on its own, could carry a 20-year prison sentence. Prosecutors argued that Rhodes stood outside the Capitol on January 6, acting like a general as his followers breached the building.
So joining us now, Tasha Adams. She is Stewart Rose's ex-wife, who helped him start the Oath Keepers more than a decade ago. She has since left the group and has condemned Rose and the Oath Keepers for their involvement on January 6.
This is her first interview, by the way, the first TV interview, I should say, since the verdict. Thank you so much for joining us. We appreciate you joining us this morning. How are you doing, Tasha?
Amazing. The best I've done in a long time. What's your reaction to your ex-husband being convicted on these things, especially the historic one of seditious conspiracy? Well, that was the big one. That's the one I was really worried about.
I'm so relieved. I don't even know how to put into words the difference between the way the world feels now and the way the world felt to me before yesterday at 03:00 p.m. My time, except to describe it as like being in a really noisy room for days, weeks, months on end.
And then it's just suddenly quiet. It's like the absence of fear. It's the best way I can put it. Why were you so skeptical that they would even find him guilty? Because I know that you have said that he has never faced any consequences for his actions his entire life.
Yeah, he hasn't been able to get away with everything. I wasn't even able to get a restraining order against him. I mean, just simple, simple things. He was given 50% custody, which, had he been acquitted, he could have shown up here in Montana and just taken my kids.
And it seemed to be it seemed to me he seemed all-powerful, that there was nothing I could ever do. Even when we finally did it out, I mean, the police told me to go home to him and sent me back home to my husband.
It seemed impossible that he could lose. And though I saw the evidence against him, I knew logically, it was a pretty good case. But emotionally, he just seemed unbeatable. But that's not the case. I know the two of you, you have six children together.
When you talk about your concerns about what that would look like, one thing that you said that stood out to me after the verdict came down is that you are concerned he might try to seek a pardon if Trump is reelected.
I mean, that's the shadow over all of this. I know that that's what he's mentally doing right now as he is regrouping, and I'm not even sure it would have to be Trump. I think may be a potential DeSantis presidency.
There is still the potential for pardon there. I know it's slight. I know that Trump could have pardoned him before, and he didn't. But there's that slight shadow. I know that that is what Stewart's doing right now.
He's already mentally he's already on the next step. You know the power that he has over others, right? The power to persuade, the power to inspire, the power to compel. Do you believe that this conviction on, such a charge, that has such a high bar to reach conviction on, will deter some of those followers?
I think some of my fear is that these criminal charges, it's hard to imagine. But they don't hurt him on the extreme right. And it's one of the reasons I feel sometimes compelled to just talk about the more personal side of him, the abuse, the misusing of funds, of keepers.
It doesn't get talked about a lot, because a lot of people look at it like, well, he misused funds, but it's the extremist money, so what? But it does hurt him on the right, and that does keep him from potentially rising again in an appealing scenario or a pardon in those cases.
So I think that's one of the reasons I feel like I need to talk about the more personal side of him and all the damage he's caused to everyone, not just criminally. Tasha, do you feel safe? I should have asked you because you talked about your kids.
And do you feel safe now? I do. I mean, of course, there's some concern with some of his followers. I do get messages. I did get some last night. I've dishonored my husband. This is all my fault. I'm pretty used to everything being my fault, so that didn't phase me too much.
The FBI has been great. They check in on me, ask me, double-check. Is there anything you getting bad messages about? Really? The first time I'd been able to breathe easy in years. Maybe decades, to tell you the truth.
Wow. Toscha thank you. We're glad that you're safe. And thank you so much for peering. Thank you. Thank you.